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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:28 pm 
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http://www.avaaz.org/en/close_guantanamo/

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Do you really think that will help?

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yes it won't help..

and by the way:

they did bad things.so,why we should close it?

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People that do bad things should be punished, yes.
Doesn't mean human rights should go out the window.

"Dear Avaaz Member,

Bush's top advisors are divided over whether to close Guantanamo prison forever. A massive global outcry could tip the balance. Sign the petition below - we will publish it in key US papers next week:
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Adel Hamad grew up in a small village in Sudan. Through hard work, he became a schoolteacher and hospital assistant. To support his family he took a better job at a community hospital in Afghanistan. Then late one night he was torn from his bed and sent to hell, as Guantanamo Bay Detainee #940.

Adel Hamad has had no trial. He has seen no family members for four years. Even US military officers reviewing his situation have called his detention "unconscionable." But he and nearly 400 other prisoners are still trapped at Guantanamo.
Last week US Defense Secretary Robert Gates finally said Guantanamo should be closed. President Bush's advisors are split down the middle on this issue -- a massive global outcry could tip the balance, and push Bush to close Guantanamo forever. Click below to sign the Close Guantanamo petition, and we'll run ads next week in major US papers announcing the number of signatures:

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It's now clear that many of the detainees are simply innocent people caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. Guantanamo's former commander General Jay Hood has admitted, "Sometimes we just didn't get the right folks." This is what happens when people are held without charge or trial.

After being held for five years, last week Australian David Hicks was finally charged -- and sentenced to just 9 months in an Australian prison. This hardly looks like the "worst of the worst" - words the Bush Administration used to justify ignoring basic standards of justice. Meanwhile, as regimes around the world use Guantanamo to excuse their own human rights abuses, international law keeps taking a beating.

Sign the petition calling on the US government to close Guantanamo , and for its inmates to be tried in a legitimate court or set free. Let's run ads in Washington DC and show that citizens from every country on earth want this injustice to end:

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Ricken, Milena, Tom, Graziela and the Avaaz Team "

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Hans wrote:
Do you really think that will help?

Maybe.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:52 pm 
These people want to destroy the civilized world...no - keep it open.


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It's easy to be dismissive without bothering to find out the facts.

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I joined . Too much hate are out ,in the world and everyones deserve justice.Better world beguns from us.If we will be better ,world be too.


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Fellgoodinc wrote:

they did bad things.so,why we should close it?


lovejoy wrote:
These people want to destroy the civilized world...no - keep it open.


The presumption of innocence is a basic principle of any democratic
state's law, as is the idea that any individual is equal to the law.

I can't see why people whose guilt is not proven sufficiently (I don't think the US "we think they might have planned to get involved into something" argument is sufficient!) should be kept in prison, especially under the circumstances existing in Guantanamo.

+ There is an international convention on the treatment of POW's that is violated by the way the US treat the prisoners at Guantanamo.

IF the USA want to spread democracy and freedom etc. pp. they should sweep in front of their own door first and give a good example!

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I don't know what to feel about it........... :confused: On one hand i think it is about time a decision was made on it's future and the other is knowing some of my mates are dodging less bullets because of it.......oh i don't know :confused: :wink:


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front man wrote:
I don't know what to feel about it........... :confused: On one hand i think it is about time a decision was made on it's future and the other is knowing some of my mates are dodging less bullets because of it.......oh i don't know :confused: :wink:


Nothing's cut and dried is it?
The "guilty" need to stay behind bars that's for sure.
But it's wrong to hold people for such a long time without charging them. If they're guilty, lock 'em up, if they're innocent, let 'em go.

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Lucky Woman wrote:
front man wrote:
I don't know what to feel about it........... :confused: On one hand i think it is about time a decision was made on it's future and the other is knowing some of my mates are dodging less bullets because of it.......oh i don't know :confused: :wink:


Nothing's cut and dried is it?
The "guilty" need to stay behind bars that's for sure.
But it's wrong to hold people for such a long time without charging them. If they're guilty, lock 'em up, if they're innocent, let 'em go.


true :wink:


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